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  • "Biewer" terrier/Yorkie/??

    I read a couple of threads on here that mention a biewer terrier. I had a dog today that was a shelter dog (absolute sweetheart) that was an unidentified mix. I'm sure he is some sort of mix, not a pedigree dog... But he reminded me of some of the pictures I've seen of biewer terriers. I thought jack russel/papillon mix. His head has some strikingly similar appearances to a Yorkie though. And if I had tipped his ears he would have really looked like a Yorkie. What do you think?

    FYI... Getting a photo was very difficult! He sat in my table like this until he just flat out lied down and relaxed for a bit. Shy little guy. Only his second groom, first time with me.

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  • #2
    Maybe! Really leggy and badly bred, (not the best example lol) but perhaps.
    There are 3 different kinds of people in this world: Dog people, cat people, and rational people who don't have a problem liking two things at the same time.

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    • #3
      He's cute! He doesn't look like a Biewar to me though. His hair is much too coarse.

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      • #4
        Just guessing, yorkie and Wirehair Fox?

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        • #5
          Lol this is a Biewer:
          http://funkypuppy.wordpress.com/2013...ant-pronounce/

          They are TINY little things. The one in the link was the sweetest little dog. www.biewer-btca.com has lots of info on this new breed!
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          • #6
            Nope.

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            • #7
              Never heard of them until a client brought one in to my shop. Sweetheart of a tiny little dog. Looks completely like a yorkie, same coat texture, only the coloring is different. Must be a true terrier since the one I get in is totally fearless- she broke her leg at an early age trying to leap onto (what she thought) was on intruder to the home from a 2nd floor balcony.

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              • #8
                Biewers yorkie was the name for a bloodline of Yorkshire terriers that carries a white gene. They started breeding FOR the white gene instead of ending the line snd now ee have a breed called Biewers Terrier. They are pretty much yorkies with flash here and there.

                I agree with the one above me, his hair seems more wirey than silky.... he is friggin adorable though!!!!

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                • #9
                  Since its a fad breed, (and I have about 5 legit and also "breeders" near me, I see a LOT) there is a lot of variance. Not in breed standard, but the gene throws some really strange things sometimes. I often see them really leggy and with strange hair, the average weight of the ones I get are 7-9 lbs. I do have some tiny ones under 5 lbs but its not super common.
                  There are 3 different kinds of people in this world: Dog people, cat people, and rational people who don't have a problem liking two things at the same time.

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                  • #10
                    OMG... what a cute little pup and cute groom!!! I'd take him home in a minute he's soooo cute!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChassyGirl View Post
                      Biewers yorkie was the name for a bloodline of Yorkshire terriers that carries a white gene. They started breeding FOR the white gene instead of ending the line snd now ee have a breed called Biewers Terrier. They are pretty much yorkies with flash here and there.

                      I agree with the one above me, his hair seems more wirey than silky.... he is friggin adorable though!!!!

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                      I THINK it is called the "piebald" gene??? Genetics makes my head explode lol.

                      Debbie
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by daesue View Post
                        I THINK it is called the "piebald" gene??? Genetics makes my head explode lol.

                        Debbie
                        White is funky cause it can pop up over top of other color genes. In horses, a given animal will have a set of genes determining the color (which will usually be either red or black), a set of modifiers which may fade or otherwise alter the color, and a separate gene that plunks white over the top (socks, blazes, pinto patches, etc). So technically, most white horses are actually colored horses with one great big white spot covering their whole body.

                        No idea if it works the same in dogs, but I would assume it couldn't be too much different. From the pictures I found online, these guys look like regular Yorkies with irregular white patches. Seems to fit the pattern.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by plaidjaguar View Post
                          White is funky cause it can pop up over top of other color genes. In horses, a given animal will have a set of genes determining the color (which will usually be either red or black), a set of modifiers which may fade or otherwise alter the color, and a separate gene that plunks white over the top (socks, blazes, pinto patches, etc). So technically, most white horses are actually colored horses with one great big white spot covering their whole body.

                          No idea if it works the same in dogs, but I would assume it couldn't be too much different. From the pictures I found online, these guys look like regular Yorkies with irregular white patches. Seems to fit the pattern.
                          And then you have cats.... and BAM my head exploded. I tried to get my cat breeder friend to give me a lesson.. but it was like doing algebra with a twist of physics. And all it takes is ONE judge to show you how wrong you are lololol. Tabbies, torties, torbies, patched, solid, ticked, mackerel.

                          Debbie
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                          • #14
                            Cat genetics are fascinating! And much more complicated than horse genetics. They have a lot more color and pattern options. There's half a dozen different kinds of tabby, plus points, spots, white patches like horses, and even tricolor, which doesn't occur in horses.

                            Dogs fall somewhere between cats and horses in the genetic color complexity scale.

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                            • #15
                              Interesting. There is a guy in one of the rougher neighborhoods of Chicago who breeds "Parti Yorkies" and sells them on Kijiji. They look just like the one Novemberrain had in the original post. He also posts photos of the parents. And while they are leggy and the coats are coarser (hint - they are not purebred), the photos of the adults show them with long coats and are as cute as buttons.

                              Of course, as this guy also breeds and sells adorable parti-color toy poodles that are marked like the "parti Yorkie" pups, so The Shadow Knows what goes on in the back room of that establishment. But the pups are cute as cute as can be.

                              Not cute enough to charm many hundreds of bucks out of my bank account. But cute .

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