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    Hi - Fuzzybum here - Yesterday I had a totally matted, big 'ol Doodle. I have had him, now 4 times with the last two times just bath and brush - face and foot trim at the customer's request. I love this guy and hated to see his condition yesterday knowing that I would probably have to shave him close - I told the pet parent this and she said okay. I wasn't quite sure of the extent of the matting until I started brushing --- wow what a mess. Poor 'Ruger'. My choice, and I think that it was the only choice was to do a rough cut to rid the mats before the bath. My goal was to try to save his cute face as much as possible even though it was also matted badly. So, okay, after the rough, he got an excellent bath with conditioner to hopefully soften the left over mats for the final cut. I used a #7 A/O and a #10 in the really bad spots - ears, neck and chest. I had to make the decision to shave his ears (yuck) because they were so matted on the leathers. If I had just taken mats and left some fur, I think it would have looked worse - splotchy. The looked neat, but definitely not doodly. So the final Ruger looked smooth and very short. I saved his tail, and tried my best at his head and face. Is there any other way I could have done this without shaving????? I guess I just feel so bad for the dog and know that the owners do not deserve him, as he is the sweetest, sweetest dog ever. It took me 4-1/2 hours to do him and it was kind of stressful because there were moments when I didn't what to do in order to keep his dignity....

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    Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

    Humanity before vanity. If the owners aren't going to keep up with a coat, all I care is that they are clean, comfortable, and even. I refuse to put both myself and the dog through it.

    There are ways of saving coat, but chronic matters do not get my efforts because it will just be a waste at our next appointment.
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    • #3
      Any doodles that come to me whose owners want longer than a 4f must be on a 4 week schedule max. Most of them arrive matted for their first groom with me and get the same haircut you describe they do look much cuter long imo, but i won't put them through extended dematting...if i do, that will be expected every time they come in. My wrists scream at the idea.

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      • #4
        You will get to know....

        You do not mention the age of the dog or the spacing of the grooming or baths.

        You will get to know when people are asking for more than they can handle. Most people do not maintain 'deep' coat, and if the dog is changing from light/easy puppy coat to an adult coat - BAM!! Those owners usually have no clue! I warn puppy owners that one day they will see tangles/clumps that they can't get out, and they should NOT think "Oh, I have to get at those", they should think "OMG - this must be the coat change that I was warned about! I had better get him in to the groomer ASAP!!!" lol - I make them SOOOO scared, because I have seen it happen, and heard about it. (However, the same thing can happen when people are growing coat from a shave - they like it fuzzy, it seems easy, oh it's looking gorgeous - and then it's a wreck!)

        Anyway, maybe they also were letting the coat get too long and having a great summer where the dog went swimming or something. They probably just do not realize how to maintain. And you may not have been strict enough about frequency. With full coat and lack of home maintenance, he will need some kind of trimming AT LEAST every 4 weeks so that his coat is not able to get too full and so that he can be correctly combed through.

        Live and learn....

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        • #5
          If the owners can't keep up with the coat, I won't try to cram two months of brushing into two hours on the table. It isn't fair to the dog and all saving such a coat gets you is the same situation two months down the road because you are acting as an enabler for the owners.

          I'll try to save ears, tail and enough on the face to cute 'em up. The rest gets taken off with whatever slides easily under the mats.

          Groomers don't cause dogs to mat up and require shaving. Owners are the responsible parties in those cases and I won't let owners con me into thinking I'm the heavy because I took the dog's side and shaved the bugger down rather than torture the dog with an extensive brushing session all for the sake of vanity.

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          • #6
            Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

            Originally posted by Doubledogdare View Post
            If the owners can't keep up with the coat, I won't try to cram two months of brushing into two hours on the table. It isn't fair to the dog and all saving such a coat gets you is the same situation two months down the road because you are acting as an enabler for the owners.

            I'll try to save ears, tail and enough on the face to cute 'em up. The rest gets taken off with whatever slides easily under the mats.

            Groomers don't cause dogs to mat up and require shaving. Owners are the responsible parties in those cases and I won't let owners con me into thinking I'm the heavy because I took the dog's side and shaved the bugger down rather than torture the dog with an extensive brushing session all for the sake of vanity.
            We really need a like button on here. Well said, DDD.

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            • #7
              Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

              Awesome. I agree DDD.

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              • #8
                This may help ?

                Well I did read one members blog article about trying to bathe the matted dog and using the HV dryer to push the mats further up the coat to try to save some of the coat, but I have never tried it, as I am not that confident in my skill set yet.

                Try reading the Good the Bad and the Furry blog by Lisa Kloid - that is where the article is.
                I hope nobody minds that i reposted that - not sure exactly what outside links we are allowed to mention on here.

                Sincerely,
                ~amc
                If you prick us, do we not bleed? -w.m. Shakespeare

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                • #9
                  Yah I agree...only I wont save ears...I will save face and tail but no ears.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

                    Wait, wait, wait... Riddle me .this, DDD... What would the wild goldendoodles do?

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                    • #11
                      Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

                      There's always wet shaving. That can give you one or two extra blade-lengths, and often makes it much easier to get under the mats. But I only advocate that as a stress-relieving option for the dog and groomer. I don't like the idea of leaving more coat on a very matted dog because that just leaves more coat to tangle, and rewards the owner for very very bad behavior.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by funkypuppy View Post
                        Wait, wait, wait... Riddle me .this, DDD... What would the wild goldendoodles do?

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                        They would rub them off on the rocks. LMAO
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Debbiedogs View Post
                          You do not mention the age of the dog or the spacing of the grooming or baths.

                          You will get to know when people are asking for more than they can handle. Most people do not maintain 'deep' coat, and if the dog is changing from light/easy puppy coat to an adult coat - BAM!! Those owners usually have no clue! I warn puppy owners that one day they will see tangles/clumps that they can't get out, and they should NOT think "Oh, I have to get at those", they should think "OMG - this must be the coat change that I was warned about! I had better get him in to the groomer ASAP!!!" lol - I make them SOOOO scared, because I have seen it happen, and heard about it. (However, the same thing can happen when people are growing coat from a shave - they like it fuzzy, it seems easy, oh it's looking gorgeous - and then it's a wreck!)

                          Anyway, maybe they also were letting the coat get too long and having a great summer where the dog went swimming or something. They probably just do not realize how to maintain. And you may not have been strict enough about frequency. With full coat and lack of home maintenance, he will need some kind of trimming AT LEAST every 4 weeks so that his coat is not able to get too full and so that he can be correctly combed through.

                          Live and learn....
                          When does that happen? 6 months of age usually? And puppies molt right?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

                            My spoo started coat change around 7-8 months. She JUST finished. She'll be 2 in March. Coat change in a spoo is a CHALLENGE that I lost quickly, in one week's time. I don't wish it on my greatest enemy. Well, maybe, just to show her how hellish it really is! She gave m

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is there another way to save the severely matted coat of a Golden Doodle?

                              *she gave me **** for months about losing the battle and shaving my little girl down. Believe me, it takes a certain kind of person to survive coat chabg

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