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  • How to fluff very short poodle hair?

    I groomed a mini poodle a few days ago who usually gets a short lamb trim using a #2 comb in reverse. I just fluff dry him before the clip, and it looks pretty smooth when I am done. Well, she requested I go even shorter, so I used one shorter blade. Even after fluff drying, he looked awful! It was as if I was too close to the skin to get the hair to fluff out nicely. The client was perfectly happy with it, but I was very upset and frustrated inside. Do I just suck at fluff drying, or is this because it was so short?? Would Fluff Out have made a difference?? I have never used such a product, but wonder if I should get some for these cases...am I just worrying too much? In the future, I would like to forewarn an owner with this request that this will happen, but I want to know if that is true or do I just need to learn more! Thanks in advance to any poodle specialists

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    Hmmm...the only thing I Can think of is maybe you've been getting the hair on top straight, but not the hair toward the skin? When you are drying do you brush? And do you brush the same area where the air is hitting? I'm assuming you do that, but those are the only things I can think of. Surely others who are more experienced with poodle grooming could answer this better.

    Tammy in Utah
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    • #3
      You will not get hair straight on a shaved poodle. It will always be wavy, it will look like crushed velvet. Fluff drying does not straighten hair, high velocity drying straightens hair. Fluff drying just helps you to brush the hair to the skin.

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      • #4
        Getting thew fur that is left fluffy

        Depending on length left, This is what I do. The Hv has a volume control. I take the hose with no concentrator and hold it under my right arm so my right hand is free to concentrate warm air on where I brush against the grain. If it is too sort, it can't fluff, but may still look better. The really short snap ons on some coats tract, then you can't do anything with it except make it shorter...and usually you don't WANT it any shorter.I once had a gadget I got from Hershey Expo. It was a covered hook that hangs around the neck and holds a human gunstyle blow dryer. It worked pretty well. You have to position the dryer , and sometimes it is end heavy and drops out. Warm air and a slicker(soft one, so not to brush burn) and it always looks way better. Clients ask how I get em so fluffy. HV with variable speed air flow. I usually blast em all...better results until the Cocker pees!

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        • #5
          I usually use my HV until just damp, then, turn it on low and brush the hair up with a slicker to separate the hairs. I do brush the area I am drying so that it gets 'stretch dried' or whatever you want to call it. This poodle's hair is a little harsh, so maybe that in combination with the short length is the problem. Or, perhaps I am letting them dry a little too much before I fluff them? Thanks for the input guys, I didn't feel so bad about it when I woke up this morning, but boy, I was steeeewing on it the past few days!

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          • #6
            On a dog that gets a 2 comb or shorter...maybe even a 1 1/2 comb, I just HV. The dog gets totally dry and as straight as it's going to get, and then I'm happy with that. You're not going to get that perfectly straight hair, cause you're not able to stretch it dry...I think that's what gets it straight. The tiny bit of curl left in the coat is not even going to be noticed when trimmed that short.
            Erin
            No Fur, No Paws, No Service.

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            • #7
              "I usually blast em all...better results until the Cocker pees!"

              LOL!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PoodleMom View Post
                "I usually blast em all...better results until the Cocker pees!"

                LOL!!
                OMG!! LOLOLOL I like your style!

                We HV dry till just barely damp. Brushing is minimal and then off to the crate to dry with the Sahara. My babies are straight no matter what length I cut them.

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                • #9
                  When i was in school majority of the dogs we did we a #7f kennel, including our poodles. Well I was always being harped on cause that poodle hair was never straight enough (we were not allowed to use HV only stand dryers)...I finally had enough and complined there was not enough hair with a 7f to straighten (then she would take the water spray bottle, spray the poodle and tell me to start again...sigh)...now I know better, I use my HV and at the end go over with a brush and stand dryer. much nicer! And I like my dogs as fluffy as I can leave them. I do not do very many 7f's!

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                  • #10
                    where i'm working now we really don't fluff dry anything :-( We pretty much just HV ... kennel dry & then blow them out after - which straightens it a little, but nothing like using a stand dryer like i learned in school.

                    anyways .... I read somewhere (either notes or poodle clipping ?) to use the HV until there is no visible spray of water coming off of the dog .... then switch to the stand dryer. This seems like a good rule of and is what I do at home on my own dogs & grooming dogs.

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                    • #11
                      You can't stretch dry coat that's so short there's nothing for the brush to grab hold of. If it's that short, HV all the way. If the dog has cowlicks, you're just SOL.

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