Is this a Shih or a Lhasa?? part 2

[Pixie]

Here is another view of Lucy.

[Raggs]

She has a longer nose than a Shih Tzu should.

Is her fur soft or does it have a hard almost terrier like texture to it?

[stacie-gotg]

Looks like a Shih Tzu to me. I have done ones like that with a long snout.

[rapuzzled]

Without being able to see her size, it's really hard. She could just be a badly bred shihtzu, or maybe even a shihtzu with a little lhasa thrown in there?

[Fur Elite]

It looks like most all of the shih tsus in this area!

[dakwin]

My vote is Shih tzu

[Rubydog]

I say shih tzu.

[KarlaSnyder]

Another vote for Shih Tzu-but a poor breed example, as most of them seem to be now.

[scrubapup]

Looks like a Shitzu to me, and I have the same bandana material. LOL!!

[Pixie]

Raggs, her coat is mostly soft but you can feel a little wire in it too, but not a lot.

[SpikeyTheYorkie]

I say shih tzu---I think it has a long muzzle for a shih tzu, but it seems too short for a Lhasa. And I never seen a Lhasa that color. (Not that they don't exist, but I've never seen one that color here in Utah).

Tammy in Utah

[Crystal]

I think it's a mix of shih and Lhasa. Looks like a shih with too long of a nose.

[Raggs]

Lhasa's have wiry hair. The shorter it goes the softer it gets but the longer it grows the more wiry it gets. Shih's don't have wiry hair. They have a cotton coat.

[Helly]

I say shih tzu---I think it has a long muzzle for a shih tzu, but it seems too short for a Lhasa. And I never seen a Lhasa that color. (Not that they don't exist, but I've never seen one that color here in Utah).

Tammy in Utah

That's funny, because that's just about the only color we see in Lhasas around here.

[Helly]

Lhasa's have wiry hair. The shorter it goes the softer it gets but the longer it grows the more wiry it gets. Shih's don't have wiry hair. They have a cotton coat.

You are, of course, speaking breed standard here. I've seen a lot of poorly bred Shih's with a hard, wirey coat, or with single instead of double coat. And Lhasas with soft coat, and both single and double coats exist, too.

Just like poorly bred poodles with soft coat that is wavey, rather than hard and curly. Yorkies with double cotton coat instead of silky, single coat. Or long haired dachshunds that only have whispy hair on their ears and tail, but nothing much to speak of anywhere else. Or cockers, where the coat can run the gamut, from springer-like coat to mops of soft, curly, cotton coat.

Bad breeding often produces bad coat, from a breed standard point of view.