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    Ok my pin has had very good skin up until recently and now she has flaky skin and has gotten little pimple sores on her neck (where her collar sits which is now off) and by her back end. My vet told me awhile ago there was a vitamen oil I could use that would help keep her coat and skin healthy. I feed her Blue Buffalo small breed. Would like your guys opinions please thank you guys!!!!!!



    P.S. HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE NEW YEARS!!!!!

  • #2
    I'd see if she might have a thyroid problem. Make sure you get the complete blood tests, not just the T4.

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    • #3
      Is the food chicken based? All 4 of my dogs are allergic to chicken based foods in one manner or another. You might try a different protein base. One of my danes gets pimples and bad odor on chicken, my labx gets super flaky skin, hair loss and bad odor on chicken. It is certainly the easiest of all things to change and if it makes a difference then great, if not, no harm done. As far as vitamin oils, I have used fish oil and vit e, some use flax seed oil.

      Stephen: Let me just agree here too. Our vet said in his practice that chicken is by far the most prone meat for allergic reactions, and fish the least. Our dogs have occasional problems with chicken too and we go back to buffalo and fish and never seem to have a problem with those.
      I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.
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      • #4
        one more thing

        parsley and "green stuff" like kelp. Supposed to great for some dogs but blew my dogs away... an expensive supplememnt that did not work for my wires.

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        • #5
          Well guys I pulled out my dog food and here are the ingredients: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Barley, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Fish Meal, Chicken Fat, Natural Chicken Flavor, and the list goes on. But which brand and alternative would you choose.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KDGROOMER View Post
            Ok my pin has had very good skin up until recently and now she has flaky skin and has gotten little pimple sores on her neck (where her collar sits which is now off) and by her back end. My vet told me awhile ago there was a vitamen oil I could use that would help keep her coat and skin healthy. I feed her Blue Buffalo small breed. Would like your guys opinions please thank you guys!!!!!!



            P.S. HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE NEW YEARS!!!!!
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            Along with the dietary recomendations, I'd wash her in Pyoben or an equivelent folicular flushing shampoo, and try carding the area that is flaking gently. I'm thinking maybe seborea, which is really treatable.

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            • #7
              I feed blue buffalo too, I just feed the fish and brown rice version. A girl I work w/ feeds it to her shihx, so it is fine for little dogs too. I really love the fishy version because it really makes their coats shine. I used to feed the lamb and rice, but it gave one of my danes gas and others had a dryer coat and not as much shine. I just really prefer the fish and rice more. Now once some of our debt is paid off (after taxes come in!) we will be switching the dogs back to innovas Evo. I truly love that food, it has been the only food I have ever been really happy w/. We fed the red meat evo because of the afore mentioned chicken allergies. We had to switch to something a little cheaper that I can get a discount on due to the bf being laid off for 6 months. I really prefer the grain free foods, it just isn't in the budget right now.
              I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.
              -Michelangelo

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              • #8
                If it was me, I would be doing baths weekly, in a medicated shampoo, like a tar and sulphur or Microtek and worry about food if it comes BACK. If you think abou it, I would worry more about a skin infection, as it sounds like Pyoderma to me.

                BB makes a venison and a fish base as well. I would be most concerned about feed however IF it comes bck after getting it cleared up with another method. That type of skin issue is not what I usually see in feed allergy.
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                • #9
                  I would try a benzoil peroxide shampoo every other day for about a week and start her on a fatty acid supplement. Dr Fosters & Smith has one that worked good for my Pom -its called Healthy Skin & Coat Tabs and has Flaxseed, borage fish oils, evening primrose and safflower oil. It will take a couple of months for you to see a lot of results from the supplement, but it worked wonders for my little guy. If she has the bumps & sores on her skin, she may have a skin infection and might need an oral antibiotic in addition to the medicated shmpoo...

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                  • #10
                    My old time vet many years ago recommended Neutrogena T gel tar and sulfa shampoo for my dogs flea dermatitis one bite and he chewed himself bald.I have found over the yrs it works on several skin issues as it is intended use for severe eczema, psoriasis,dermatitis . this is a mild but very effective shampoo made for humans (this is the only human shampoo I would ever use on a dog)and have used it for several of my clients with even a vets(boss) approval .Unlike veterinary prescription shampoo's this is inexpensive sold in all major stores such as Wallmart etc. does not leave a nasty odor on the pet.this is an exfoliating shampoo which helps remove dead skin and dirt particles allowing the skin to heal and breath by opening up those clogged skin pores. I have used this treatment for the past 25+ yrs with no know bad reactions to any of the pets I have used it on .most show signs of major improvements within one month with 1-2 treatments weekly..use it well diluted for easy application leave on for 10 -15 minutes then rinse .

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                    • #11
                      I agree with what Parti said,but jfyi bb is made by diamond so you can save money with the premium edge, it is basicly the same food, b.b duck was twice what I was paying for totw duck, same ingredients,
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by odette View Post
                        I agree with what Parti said,but jfyi bb is made by diamond so you can save money with the premium edge, it is basicly the same food, b.b duck was twice what I was paying for totw duck, same ingredients,
                        I would be curious to know where you read/heard this. I have never heard that blue buffalo is made by diamond. taste of the wild, chicken soup, kirkland, yes, bb, no.
                        Last edited by gr8danlvr1; 01-02-10, 09:08 AM.
                        I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free.
                        -Michelangelo

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                        • #13
                          Seriously, forget changing her food or using any type of supplement for the time being. And forget any type of medicated shampoo, too. Take her to your vet first. Find out what the problem is, then you can find an effective treatment.

                          As already suggested, it could be a thyroid problem. It could also be diabetes, internal parasites, some environmental allergen, or even an external parasite; chyletiella parasitavorax aka walking dandruff.

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                          • #14
                            I think Blue Buffalo is made by Blue Buffalo and sold by BB as well.

                            Helly, in this case I would not agree with you about seeing avet at this stage. I am not one to run to the vet anyway. I am likely to try to solve the problem myself in my own dogs. I see vets for stuff I cannot do myself. The reason? NOT EVERY VET is competent and I have not found one locally I truly love. I mean, they were giving (or trying to give) my griff with demodex Prednisone and were not intereste din solving the issue. Two vets DID give a 12 year old cocker client of mine who broke with generalized Demodecosis complicated by sarcoptic mange, in October, pred and an e collar for 12 weeks before I finally told them I would pay for the scraping if it WASN'T mange! Treating for allergies is stupid if its mange, and yet that is all they were doing. Mind you, he has spots os scales, no hair, redness, heat and itchiness, as well as swelling in the face and feet. Every single symtpm of mange right down to the smell, but they saw cocker and said allergies......If I had a vet that I thought would look for an underlying cause I might feel differently but all the vets around here simply dole out pills and shots.

                            HECK If I took a dog in with those symptoms, the vet would hand me a shampoo and say try this, why are you bothering me???

                            If I ran to the vet every single time I had a dog with something wrong I would be broke. I monitor the situation and then go if what I try doesn;t work. 99% of the time I don't end up at the vet and I have healthy dogs. VERY healthy dogs.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gr8danlvr1 View Post
                              I would be curious to know where you read/heard this. I have never heard that blue buffalo is made by diamond. taste of the wild, chicken soup, kirkland, yes, bb, no.
                              Whole dog journal, they do a once a year choice foods that are recommended, the company must state manufacturer to be included, the mag accepts no ads so it is highly sought out to be included, it's invitation only and the companys must fill out an eztensive questioaire.
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