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  1. #16
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    Thanks everyone for the compliments! Most of my schn. don't have coats like his either, and most if they do, they get done short, maybe even with clean ft. I have gone around in circles with his owners too. First one of the guys wanted me to follow the color lines on the side of the dog. I have had to raise and lower the pattern line more times than I can count. This time I got brave and took the bib off as much as I could without it being too noticable. I wish I did not have to make the beard so short. The one guy that originally wanted the pattern line to follow the color line, was cutting the eyebrows, especially between them, so I don't dare let them get very long. Than every time I do him, the next time the other guy comes in, he brings up something that I did wrong. Good thing I like the dog. They got him out of the shelter too. He is my prettiest schn. that I do I think. The one that use to cut the eyebrows doesn't even come in anymore, because he got mad once and stomped back out to the car, because I said what he wanted was wrong.

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    Default Very nice!

    That is a fat boy with a HUGE cottony coat, you have done great on him! That coat type WILL look scissored/manicured/whatever because it has to be, it does NOT 'fall'. I know - I've done many Schnauzers with that type of coat, lol!

    Yeah, hard to show 'muscles' on a dog that has fat over them! I think he looks terrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbiedogs View Post
    That is a fat boy with a HUGE cottony coat, you have done great on him! That coat type WILL look scissored/manicured/whatever because it has to be, it does NOT 'fall'. I know - I've done many Schnauzers with that type of coat, lol!

    Yeah, hard to show 'muscles' on a dog that has fat over them! I think he looks terrific.
    Thanks! That is right in that his hair does not fall. I have to hand dry him part of the way to straighten his hair out, so that it is not too curly. He almost has like poodle hair. At least it isn't like the schn. that my Mom got from Skansen Kennels in Sebasterpol, CA. She was a gorgeous dog, but her hair was so thick and curly. My daughter hand stripped her a couple of times, because my Mom had plan to show her, and didn't, and it was such a job to do. Even to do a pet groom on her was a big job. She has a Giant schn and standard schn, that she grooms that came from the same kennel. They are such nice dogs and black of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearmtn View Post
    He is clipped with a 5f backwards and a 8.5 and 7f down. He is fat and has curly hair, so being fat, there is not going to be any muscle showing. I like the way he turns out on his back. I do go to the whisker dot, but his beard is so short that is flares out. If I thin it out it would look more stupid, and than there would be a lot of short hairs to deal with next time. He does have very curly hair which makes it worse, but than being curly, has its plus too.
    Oh, OK, I looked at the pics again and I see that it's shorter than I thought at first glance - It's the curly hair. And I know what you mean about fat schnauzers. I've groomed some of them too - hard to show muscles LOL.

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    I think you did a great job. Very nice job blending!

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    Elliot looks smashing. Wonderful work!

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    Thanks for the compliments. I will try to get another picture of him the next time I groom his which should not be too long. I have been trying to make some changes. Hopefully, the owner won't come back and tell me he wants them changed back. lol

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    Woweeee! NICE!
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    He looks great! That us very difficult coat to work with, every single mark shows on it, nevermind the drying and matting!

    One small critique, the fringe (schnauzers don't get skirts) can divot in slightly more. I'm guessing you just drop the clipper down when you get to the blend line, which normally is good, but with his thickness go in on a slight angle with a skip 7. Because he's a big guy I wouldn't say to shorten it much, but just a tiny smidgeon and try to angle it a tad more so it's going to be shorter by the Peter and about the length it is in the pic at the elbows. It will just add a bit more shape and flair. Also push his ears into his head. They seem stuck outside it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schnauzerLuv View Post
    He looks great! That us very difficult coat to work with, every single mark shows on it, nevermind the drying and matting!

    One small critique, the fringe (schnauzers don't get skirts) can divot in slightly more. I'm guessing you just drop the clipper down when you get to the blend line, which normally is good, but with his thickness go in on a slight angle with a skip 7. Because he's a big guy I wouldn't say to shorten it much, but just a tiny smidgeon and try to angle it a tad more so it's going to be shorter by the Peter and about the length it is in the pic at the elbows. It will just add a bit more shape and flair. Also push his ears into his head. They seem stuck outside it.
    I will try to shorten skirt more, as it has been lowered as compared to before. The owners are not real easy to work with, and very fussy at the same time. They got this guy out of the shelter. He certainly didn't look like this when they got him, and didn't know what he could look like, but can be pains to work with, because their idea of what they want him to look like and my idea is two different things. I just resently took the bib shorter, and worried that they would say something about that. They use to chop the eyebrows off and they want the beard very short. Only thing I am not sure I can do is stuff his ears back into his head. That might plug up his ear canals. He already has tendencys to have ear infections, and that would really flare them up. Thanks!

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    I groomed him today, and didn't bother with pictures. First thing owner told me was I didn't get both sides around the elbows even, and not to take the bib so short. He also had scissored on the feet and taken some of the hair off over the top of the toes, so that the nails showed. I could not believe it! I work so hard on this dog, and everytime there is something wrong. The time before, the beard was not even, as it has to be scissor short. Before that the eyebrows were uneven. Of course I have a hard time with the eyebrows, as they use to scissor them off, especially the middle part, where tends to make eyebrows out of control for a long time after that. Today I did get them the best I even have, but he will come back and tell me I left them too long, or cut them short again themselves.

    I think next time if he comes in I am going to tell him that maybe he should find another groomer, since I can't seem to make him happy. There is always a problem. Once it was because taking the hair out of Elliott's ears caused a red spot, and he told me not to be so ruff. I can hardly get the hair pulled out, and have a hard to not pinching him, as he hates his ears messed with. He has had tendencys to having ear infections if the ears are not kept clean, which was my fault too when they first got him, as he already had problems. They got him out of a shelter.

    Except for the toe nails and toes showing some, I thought he looked really good, so we will see what happens when he comes back in a month. I maybe sending him back out the door.

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