So, I do know how to groom a setter. My problem is this setter is coming in for the second time on thursday. He has an extremely wooly coat and so much of it! yes he is neutered and previous groom I believe clipped his back once. Owner pretty much wants a modified show clip, no clipping back. So we broke out all our tools; thinning shears, classic stripper, coat king. It did not put a dent in that dogs coat. emailed the breeder and he said just go in uner the coat with the thinning shears. I did do that to an extent, but was not very confident about that because of how much coat the dog has. Any setter people that have any good advice on a wooly setter?